Monday, May 30, 2005
Sometime ago on MSN......
Seta : We have field trips for assignments. Visit homes, spend time talking to people, and write reports for it...
Vincent : So what sort of homes? Orphanages?
Seta : Yeah we visited an orphanage. There's also a home for abandoned kids. Last week, we visited a home for AIDS patients..
Vincent : Home for kids with AIDS?
Seta : No, adults.
Vincent : Eh, who decides the places you go to?
Seta : *says something that I can't remember* Why?
Vincent : Because that would be one of the last few places that I would visit. I rather spend my time for a more deserving cause.
Seta : ??
Vincent : Like cancer patients.....
Seta : So what have you got against AIDS patients?
Vincent : Well, counting the kids aside (those who got it from their mothers), AIDS is pretty much a self inflicted disease. This is what happends when you go around fucking random people, or poking yourself with a needle.
Seta : Well, some of them are pretty sad about it. A lot of them get rejected by their families..
Vincent : I am not saying that its a happy thing....I am saying that its self inflicted...like prisoners on the death row....you do something wrong....then you've gotta pay the piper..
Seta : I dunno...I guess its only compassionate.
Vincent : Yeah? I rather spend my time, and get scientists to spend their resources working on cures for cancer and stuffs....at least most of the types of cancer weren't self-inflicted anyway.
Seta : ....
So, you tell me.....am I wrong?
This is an argument I have had for quite a while. Although it sounds pretty extreme, I have not been able to think of a counter argument for it and nobody has yet been able to educate me as to why I should be more sympathetic towards AIDS patients.
I feel that since it is pretty much a self-inflicted disease (except for the kids and the odd blood-transfusion cock-ups) then people should divert their attention to other 'more deserving' causes. I am not even talking about the extreme stuffs like research grants for developing a cure. I am talking about simple stuffs....like money for more hospis and allocation of caregivers' manpower.
Usually most arguments have a flip side, but as I said earlier, I have not been able to think of one. Compassion, though valid, is a weak argument in my view - do they suffer more or does a kid with leukemia suffer more?
So, yeah........this is one of the rare times when I say, feel free to pounce on me for having such extreme views. Just tell me why I am wrong. Humour me...Educate me....
Same goes to the pregnant teenagers who claims they hav mental stress. WHo ask them to have un-safe safe in the first place right?
same principle as in should I give my support to a full functional beggar or handicapped person who is selling some self-made handcraft?
I would give it to the handicapped instead.
They've condone evil in the past. So we don't spread the evil. What good can we do by shunning them aside. For among us who can't forgive them, at least we're happy(not as in 'laughing evil') to know that quarters of them learned their lesson. The hard way.
And maybe, that's already enough for them.
while the government and society at large play a part in educating the public, i think that their effort should rest at that and only provide support to victims of unfortunate circumstances.
imagine, a victim who contracted aids from blood transfusion (non-drugs related), having to stay under the same roof with another infidel fucker or drug addict, what an injustice!
i'm not saying i object your opinion. Just that you can't make everybody happy at one time. Equal trade, piss someone off to make yourself happy.
And if you are gona go by the "its self inflicted so they dont deserve the help" theory, then technically, heart disease, cancer, diabetes. It's also self inflicted isnt it? So smokers who get cancer dont deserve help? Diabetics who ate a lot of sugar and didnt exercise dont deserve sympathy and compassion?
Compassion for others is something we should try to develop in ourselves. It's really hard but its worth working for.
but you are right about who suffers more... it is those who inherit such diseases or is a victim of a natural outbreak. These are beyond their control.
Btw tilia, if they can't afford condoms, then maybe they shouldnt go around fucking everybody eh? Good point about the other stuffs though..
Ppl are stubborn and horny. What to do? Government should just give out condoms for free.
also, they should give out free needles for drug addicts. it should not be confused with encouraging people to use drugs. giving out needles is important so that those idiots dont poke themselves with dirty needles.
As much as you'd call me an idealist, I think it's not so simple/hard-and-fast rule as to who deserves to be treated and who doesn't. I'm in hospital 8 hours a day/5 days a week, so we see lots and lots of stuff. It's not only HIV+ patients who are the ones suffering from your so-called 'self-inflicted' diseases. How about lung cancer due to smoking, liver failure due to alcohol intoxication or just basic trauma to the limbs from driving too fast?
I guess what I'm saying is that we can't really play God and determine who deserves to be treated or not. Many people make choices in their life, some of them right, some of them wrong. We are fortunate that we make the wrong mistakes that are little, minute and not life-threatening. But who's to say that that is much different from the bigger mistakes? After all, they all are still, just mistakes. And as human beings, we're allowed quite a number of them.
All we can do, is try to treat everyone equally. (In fact, this is the basis of one of our 4 major medical principles!) Everyone is born equal, and we should aim to help everyone who needs it, regardless of their life choices.
We are here to help. Not judge. Not punish. Just to make the world a better place. :)
But for all the other stuff you said, I agree!
smoking does cause lung cancer but not all sufferers of lung cancer are smokers, yes? second hand smoke is worse is it not??
my mum's cousin had syrosis of the liver..and she hadnt touched a single drop of alcohol in her life...
besides...drinking and smoking, while self inflicted, are not against the law. poking urself with a needle and injecting shit into ur body is.
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